How Are Your Vamp Teams Doing?

[Bantha]

So, another game done.

Vs Orc's.. 250 inducements became one apo and one wiz.

The luck really came and went in this game, could really have been an easy 2-1 and an easy 1-2.

But it was a hard though game ended 1-1.

I had some luck to, but not enough.

Ohh, Bloodlust: ~27% of the rolls = a hungry vamp...

Next stop Chaos, including str6 claw mb CW.

One vamp mng so less inducements this time.

B)

/B

Edited September 10, 2012 by Bantha

[Altashheth]

So, another game done.

Vs Orc's.. 250 inducements became one apo and one wiz.

The luck really came and went in this game, could really have been an easy 2-1 and an easy 1-2.

But it was a hard though game ended 1-1.

I had some luck to, but not enough.

Ohh, Bloodlust: ~27% of the rolls = a hungry vamp...

Next stop Chaos, including str6 claw mb CW.

One vamp mng so less inducements this time.

B)

/B

I may have to look at your team list next time I log on :) I've got humans next.... Nice tasty human blood :)

[Jimmy C]

Well I lost again. But on the positive side I suffered no permanent injuries and got a nice 21spp hall. It also was very close to a 2-2 draw, but those sneaky rats managed some magic to steal the ball and go 3-1 up at the bell.

I must say I’m loving the ssc format where wins/losses don’t matter. I’ve managed to average about 17spp per match so far and no permanent injuries at all. Although at some stage I will really have to start winning, especially once i start OCC proper! :P

[Jimmy C]

Regarding my offense, i've only managed to get 3 TD from 4 matches, so figure i'm probably doing something wrong.

My general tactic is to pass it to a Vamp up around center LOS and screen him. Then i just try and bash forward, switching flanks to the weak side (where there is one). This generally means its around turn 4 or later before i am close enough to score.

Is this how Vamp coaches normally play it, or is it better to just stack one side on setup and then rush up a flank, hoping for a turn 2 or 3 score?

I am in 2 minds, because on one hand it means my opponent has less time to respond. But on the other hand, my Thrall attrition rate can see me down in players by mid/late half.

[crimsonsun]

you are really causing some damage out there at the moment, you proper busted my team up in our game. Sorry to here you lost to those Rats, I will take vengeance on your behalf, have more than a decades worth of grudges to take out on his team I cant offer help with vampire offence, its the part I struggle with as well.

[Kjelstad]

I like to look at everyone's team, Altashheth. Gives me an idea of what they are doing and what I can do differently.

Did you plan on continuing with those Jimmy?

rats are something I like to hit as much as I can unless I can score.

to score early and often I like to blitz a few players up the sideline & leave a vamp in position to score in 2. It gives them something to think about. If I get marked with 2 or less players I try to score. Gaze one, blitz one and then a hand off and a pass. if they over commit I still hand off to the middle vamp and then run to the other side of the pitch. I can suggest a game to watch where that worked. It will also show why you need kick. season14, div 5c week2. I thought things were going to go well after that, instead I lost my second game in week 3. hell of a lucky game though. probably why I remember it.

That ag 5 can throw quit a ways. Once you get blodge in SSC you are hard to stop. My first blodger came out of SSC with 51 SPP

and on defense I will blitz the ball every time if it is in range. First thing, not last. I don't bother with the rest of my blocks if I knock it out, I go pick it up. I finished +20 and +14 my first two seasons. Not so good this season...

Crimson, you were going to step on rats no matter what.

[Jimmy C]

Thanks for the tips and I will check out your match when I have time (I need to see some replays of good Vamp coaches to pick up on tactics). I am planning to continue this team into the OCC proper, as I really like Vamp teams and how they are so different from usual gamestyle. I figure that once my Vamps reach level 3, things should (hopefully) start getting a bit easier. At the moment I struggle with the lack of core skills (block/dodge).

[Altashheth]

It is a good plan to check out other vamp teams... I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier....

I've a suggestion for a thread for a more experienced vamp coach, I'd do it but I'm no where near experienced enought.... A sort of general guide of what to look for against each race. I've noticed I play very differently against certain teams, for example, against the dark elves I was up in his face the whole game (he has no blitzers or I may have reconsidered) against the undead I was a lot more stand offish

Just an idea :)

[Verbal_HM]

I mostly bank on using Hypno to break peoples cages for the win, hence the 6 vamps

[Bantha]

Hmm, checking out other Vamps teams only make me jealous.. so no need for that.

But I never have a plan for my game only who I would like to score, but thats a wish and nothing more.

Because the game changes as the sand dunes on the desert, just faster.

But I have a basic start setup of course, but beyond that nothing really.

It all depends on all those factors, thralls out, vamps out, defenders out, defenders misplacement.

Who will gain on a fast score and who will not.

Have a plan, that supports your playstyle your game.

So think of your strength and your weakness when picking skills and planning lvlup.

Poor words but a good thought, learn from your losses and go from there.

Nice to see all the talking in this once quite "dead" thread

Tata!

B)

/B

[Kjelstad]

It is a good plan to check out other vamp teams... I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier....

I've a suggestion for a thread for a more experienced vamp coach, I'd do it but I'm no where near experienced enought.... A sort of general guide of what to look for against each race. I've noticed I play very differently against certain teams, for example, against the dark elves I was up in his face the whole game (he has no blitzers or I may have reconsidered) against the undead I was a lot more stand offish

Just an idea :)

If I had not checked out Bantha and Naeken's teams I wouldn't know I need sure hands. I don't have it but no strippers in my div yet

I will mark str3 players so that they have to try a dodge or use two assists to hit me. Saurus I will mark with thalls so they cant move. Marked a Break tackle/tackle one today that cost me a TD on my turn 8 though. I should have marked his assist. Still scored two in his half for a 2-0 win today though. cant stop a 7-5-5-8 blodger from getting to your skinks. I really need some kick though and the big guys got all the spp today.

But I never have a plan for my game only who I would like to score, but thats a wish and nothing more.

Because the game changes as the sand dunes on the desert, just faster.

I had designs on who I wanted to score today but did not set up. I could not resist taking down some skinks and was not screened for the score. They easily got to my player in position and I had to cut over. I was just lucky he didn't score on my half

Have a plan, that supports your playstyle your game.

So think of your strength and your weakness when picking skills and planning lvlup.

no matter how much advice you give/get people just have their own styles.

[Verbal_HM]

Heroic draw from my Vamps, every thrall I bit went BH, failed every one of my 5 Ko rolls, got depitch around T13, Blodge Vamp picked up a niggle, thank nuffle for rain...

[Doomy77]

I think that might be the first full clearance I've managed in OCC.

Last time I played as Norse vs Vamps, my opponent stopped standing guys up around T13...

[Verbal_HM]

If I had any guys left to stand up I might have tried that....

34min game is seriously speedy :lol:

[Doomy77]

Yeah, I thought it was just the beer, but it actually was fast. :lol:

[Altashheth]

Well, Cruor Imbibo II have their 4th draw..... Despite sacking the human ball carriers 3 times in their drive and knocking the ball into the crowd we couldn't stop a turn 8 touch down and never got a sniff of the ball....

2nd half turned into a meat grinder with my thralls really struggling to pick up the ball but the humans kept getting KOed which eventually left a vamp open to score on the 16th turn....

4 games played.... 4 1-1 draws.... I need help with my offence

[Bantha]

If I had any guys left to stand up I might have tried that....

34min game is seriously speedy :lol:

Whow, how is that possible...

A replay must

[Bantha]

no matter how much advice you give/get people just have their own styles.

The beauty of the game!

[Kjelstad]

Whow, how is that possible...

A replay must

I watched it. You should too. 6C I think? He would have won if he had any player left.

[Doomy77]

I watched it. You should too. 6C I think? He would have won if he had any player left.

That's a big if. Scoring TDs usually requires having people on the pitch. :lol:

Also, I had a fair chance of making it 2-1.

[Verbal_HM]

failing all 5 KO rols while your sodding opponet passes 4 for 4, that's a big if too honey, you son of a bitch :lol:

[Doomy77]

Your players are smart. They knew that if they got up I'd just punch their teeth in. :lol:

[Verbal_HM]

+ag Vamp broke his neck on a 1,1 dodge T7 trying to save the game, Kick/Wrestle thrall killed himself ona suicide dodge T16 trying to save the game, game was beyound saving is all I can conclude :lol:

[Kjelstad]

+ag Vamp broke his neck on a 1,1 dodge T7 trying to save the game, Kick/Wrestle thrall killed himself ona suicide dodge T16 trying to save the game, game was beyound saving is all I can conclude :lol:

Breaking an AG vamp is the only thing that makes me want to cry. I can lose any other player and not care too much. Well losing a kicker in week one hurt but only because I already had a dead Vamp and dead rookie.

The good news is my MA/AG stat adjusted thrall got MVP today so I have a kicker again. No, not that type of adjustments.

[Jimmy C]

Breaking an AG vamp is the only thing that makes me want to cry. I can lose any other player and not care too much. Well losing a kicker in week one hurt but only because I already had a dead Vamp and dead rookie.

The good news is my MA/AG stat adjusted thrall got MVP today so I have a kicker again. No, not that type of adjustments.

Why would you give a +AG/+MA Thrall Kick? Surely he is suited to handling the ball? Or do you already have another Thrall ball handler?