Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, crimsonsun said: I'm not sure you'll just have a more important roll for Throwers who are Mv7 and instead of quick passes can safely do a short pass to make the distance. I am very must for better defined player roles but, my concern is what the elf profiles going to look like and how dominant they are going to be in competitive long term play... You rarely would field a thrower on defense, especially if they have passing skills they need which will push block back for them. AV7 means they likely won't be around next drive if you use them like a linerat on D, and you already need to protect 4 gutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, AllyRdr said: Wow. Now of course I want to know what the Brawler skill is! I wonder if block and/or guard will be broken into two skills. One that only works active and one that works passive could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Javelin said: You rarely would field a thrower on defense, especially if they have passing skills they need which will push block back for them. AV7 means they likely won't be around next drive if you use them like a linerat on D, and you already need to protect 4 gutters. I realise rats still drop like flies but if the 2016 change to pile on is still there, IE it requires a team reroll to use, which is my best assumption at this point cause we've not seen anything different then targeted player removal isn't as scary as it is right now, in fact its far below where it is. You have two slots for throwers, one could be a dead ball specialist, mutating to buff its getting the ball and delivering that short pass and a more traditional thrower who plays offense. Hey I'm not saying things are changing but I feel that Skaven will do fine with the changes we've seen thus far, or at least they are far less a concern than some other teams out there. Undead for example look like they will struggle to take advantage of these new options, and if they exist even more lumbering teams will struggle even more in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danton Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 New Orc team looks a lot like a slower Lizardman team! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 3 2
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Javelin said: Wow. Now of course I want to know what the Brawler skill is! I wonder if block and/or guard will be broken into two skills. One that only works active and one that works passive could be interesting. Block has been leaked already, if it was changed someone would have said, I didn't read it as noone mentioned it. Edited August 5, 2020 by crimsonsun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Black Orcs can no longer take Frenzy... That's a interesting change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Tom Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Also note the same "keyword" regarding bribery as the goblin team, which can easily mean this team only pays 50k per bribe just like normal gobbos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 3 2 2 2
danton Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 3 2
danton Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nobility look a lot like Brets with two throwers instead of two blitzers and with the addition of an Ogre. Also Blitzers lose Dauntless and Bodyguards have Stand Firm. At least no starting Guard players! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 3 2
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Halflings back into a human roster making the TTM a viable option again, not sure how much that effects them but another option is always good... The Imperial Nobs look interesting, I'd have to seem them on the field to get a feel for them, notice how the throwers are 3+ passing compared to 2+ for the normal human teams. Where are these pages coming from and when will we see Elves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Tom Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 The imperial line up is an interesting way to make juggernaut extra appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 3 2 2 2
Gobas Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Ok with new leaks I think we will have basic teams (Humans, Orks and stuff) and their variants and then there will be more than two-three teams that will be cut off. Probably all "weird" teams like Vamps or Khemri. Also as we see there is huge chance for new teams and this will result with fewer already existing teams in main rule book. Still 21 teams is quite a lot, this means if we add new teams like Nobility or Black Orks then in the end (after two or more supplements??) we will end with more team than now we have. Also I would be more than glad if in PC version we got all teams from main rule book whatever those teams will be. I know (looking at past PC games) that we will have on PC some teams at start and then we will have to buy new ones. Probably in packs as if we had chance to buy team one by one some teams will not sale that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 18 3 2 10
Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, danton said: Nobility look a lot like Brets with two throwers instead of two blitzers and with the addition of an Ogre. Also Blitzers lose Dauntless and Bodyguards have Stand Firm. At least no starting Guard players! I didn't notice only two blitzers now. I guess having a thrower with built in catch on the blitzers should be decent. With 4 blitzers and throwers and an Ogre they might have been too good... We'll have to play to know for sure on any of these rosters, and using running pass will be a new dynamic for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
AllyRdr Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 The nobility team looks as though they've mashed the brets with the garbage broken app team and come up with something not terrible. I don't think the blorcs add anything new that isn't already done better by lizards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Gobas Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, AllyRdr said: The nobility team looks as though they've mashed the brets with the garbage broken app team and come up with something not terrible. I don't think the blorcs add anything new that isn't already done better by lizards. I think this looks quite well. Brets always lacked some Big Guy and they have one, and first iteration of Nobility team was so damn OP (4x Guard+Block from the start, what they were smoking?!). Now they look much more enjoyable to play with them and vs them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 18 3 2 10
Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, AllyRdr said: The nobility team looks as though they've mashed the brets with the garbage broken app team and come up with something not terrible. I don't think the blorcs add anything new that isn't already done better by lizards. They can attempt a 1 turn throw teammate TD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Javelin said: They can attempt a 1 turn throw teammate TD They also have access to Projectile Vomit no idea what it does but I know what troll vomit does in fantasy and it hurts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiling Tom Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Regarding Brawler, the Black Orc skill: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 3 2 2 2
BallztotheWalla Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Fuck yeah mb first on all black orcs woop woop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 5 2 3 2 2 2
Smiling Tom Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 And a quite solid starting roster, whether you take the troll from the start or not in exchange for more rr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 3 3 2 2 2
crimsonsun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 90k Brawler + Grab is a bargin with Strength General Access... Well we now know how Orcs have been made competitive they are miles better out the gate... I'd like to see how other rosters which few are included match up... Feels like most of the undead rosters are going to be missing out the gate which is really sad but means we could get a swarm of deathly releases at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnail Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Halfling and Human rosters both have the Special Rule Old World Classic. That may mean there is no roster page for OWA and it is just a Special Rule roster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 5
Hobnail Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Goblins and Skaven both have the Underworld Challenge skills too which prob means Underworld roster will be the same 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 5
Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, crimsonsun said: Block has been leaked already, if it was changed someone would have said, I didn't read it as noone mentioned it. Well it's block related! That could really help those STR4 players that start without block. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
Javelin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, crimsonsun said: 90k Brawler + Grab is a bargin with Strength General Access... Well we now know how Orcs have been made competitive they are miles better out the gate... I'd like to see how other rosters which few are included match up... Feels like most of the undead rosters are going to be missing out the gate which is really sad but means we could get a swarm of deathly releases at some point. Do we know if the normal Orc roster Black Orcs will even be the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 2 4 3 2
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