Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 To end (some) of the speculation about OCC and it's future we've decided to announce the following. We will start a BB2 league when certain conditions are met. Those conditions will not be made public at this time. Rest assured though you'll have plenty of warning in advance (roughly a month) before it's started. The plan is to use the same league structure for the BB2 league as we currently use for the league, but it will be reviewed when we know how many participants we have. To sort out seeding for the first season we'll start out by having a bit of a seeding tournament, exact details pending, so we can rank everyone and seed them accordingly. That means that winning the first BB2 season proper will mean something. What happens to the BB1 league you ask? It keeps going parallel to the BB2 one. There are no plans to abandon that, what so ever. Why don't we start a BB2 league right now? Lack of racial diversity and lack of admins in general are the main things. DOCC teams, can those be used? No. If you have any questions (apart from what the conditions for starting the BB2 league is) feel free to ask. I'll answer what I can. If you have ideas on how we can improve things, feel free to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
Moncap Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 "It keeps going parallel to the BB2 one. There are no plans to abandon that, what so ever." So the OCC league in BB2 will be more of a reboot than a continuation? Would any of the history/records of the BB1 league be carried over? Will it start at season 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 BB1 continues. BB2 starts as Season 1 after the seeding tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
Waleed Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I like the idea of a pre-league seeding Tournament :)Maybe every single Coach HAVING to play with an identical roster for seeding.....then free reign to pick race and team for Season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 6 2
Doomy77 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Cap - We're planning a dual system with OCC leagues for BB1 and BB2. So it's more of a restructuring than a reboot. Sadly, a lot of the historical information you're asking about was already lost when BBM got wiped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4
wolves in exile Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Ye everyone play humans :-) would be a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
zippy75 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I think Dode stated that Necro, Norse, Nurgle and Undead are account for *a high percentage* of the teams coaches use. Personally, I'd imagine that when these teams are added, it's time to switch and BB1 occupies the same kind of slot that the DOCC has. (Though it would be nice to have stunties as an option!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 The current plan for the seeding tournament is to let people keep those teams for the BB2 league. Everyone will (if we can figure out how) play an equal amount of matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
wolves in exile Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 And.. The new occ uploader is it adaptable to bb2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not now, but when we start a BB2 league it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
Waleed Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 The current plan for the seeding tournament is to let people keep those teams for the BB2 league. Everyone will (if we can figure out how) play an equal amount of matches. Ah right.... ..similar to how a rookie team starting out in the Snotling Soda Cup could join the Orca Cola League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 6 2
Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not quite, but yes. It'll be a one-off tournament thing. Exactly how it's going to work I don't know yet (depends on numbers etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
Moncap Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Cap - We're planning a dual system with OCC leagues for BB1 and BB2. So it's more of a restructuring than a reboot. Sadly, a lot of the historical information you're asking about was already lost when BBM got wiped. One of the things I love about the OCC is the history. I liked reading about the Flix years (won the OCC five seasons in a row, seasons 5 to 10 or something, for those that don't know), and seeing Inxi's (or something, Hobnail's super skink of old) touch down record being beaten by Hawca. I know a lot was lost with bbm, but I'm sure a record of the winners, most touch downs etc have been kept somewhere by Pidpad? I imagined the BB1 OCC would run to say, season 35, then season 36 would be on bb2, after a qualification/seeding tournament happened. The dual system - I get that it means there isn't a set final season, and it doesn't mean that those with a good enough computer (like myself) will still have a league to play in. But I imagine the OCC BB1 league will get quiet pretty quickly, it's shrinking already I believe. Once it has shrunk some, the challenge of winning the OCC when there are 50 teams rather than 200 odd, won't be the same. Especially as the OCC title is being competed for on BB2, in some cases by the same coaches. It seems a bit messy, for me. And the sense of the history of the OCC gets confused. I realise this is a thread saying what the plan is rather than one asking how it should be done. But just sharing my initial thoughts on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidpad Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 I have the final standings of every single season for the top division (missing some TD differentials though, S1-3). I have seasonal records. For all-time records you should check with Hawca. He's the one who started the thread, but I'm not sure how up to date he's kept the records. There will be two OCC titles to fight for (which will be a smidge confusing, I'll grant that). The idea behind it though, is to make sure that it's "safe" to re-roll in BB1, your team wont become useless fairly quickly due to a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
Doomy77 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 One of the things I love about the OCC is the history. I liked reading about the Flix years (won the OCC five seasons in a row, seasons 5 to 10 or something, for those that don't know), and seeing Inxi's (or something, Hobnail's super skink of old) touch down record being beaten by Hawca. The thing about legends is you don't need exact numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4
Rymdkejsaren Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I admit I didn't even consider that you could just keep going in BB1 after the switch, but I do like the idea. As long as the numbers are there, there's no point to stop. As for admins, you won't exactly need double the numbers. The BB1 league will inevitably keep shrinking, and I think the BB2 one will need some time to get established and start growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 2 4 2 2 3 2 2
Waleed Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Not quite, but yes. It'll be a one-off tournament thing. Exactly how it's going to work I don't know yet (depends on numbers etc). Very good :). ...I'll be playing in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 6 2
Dreamy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The current plan for the seeding tournament is to let people keep those teams for the BB2 league. Everyone will (if we can figure out how) play an equal amount of matches. Force Cyanide to implement Swiss Draw. (It can be faked already, but heckuva lot of work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
dode Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Force Cyanide to implement Swiss Draw. (It can be faked already, but heckuva lot of work)I've asked. They're looking at it, they said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Waleed Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I've asked. They're looking at it, they said. Cor...excellent :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 6 2
dode Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Yeah, well, they've said a lot of things. After an initial surge of communication and action from them the recent lull has caused me to revert to my more usual cynical opinion of them. There are some good things coming, I'm just not confident in their ability or desire (which may be due to financial issues - pure speculation based on sales figures) to finish the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Dreamy Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Yea. And "Look at" is not even the same kind of promise as "Implement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bebeto Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Sounds like an excellent plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawca Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I could run a swiss draw via Score and publish the draw if required? be just like running a TT event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Pidpad Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 A Swiss draw helps determine one winner, it does little to separate people in the middle. We need to separate people in the middle as well. It's an option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards 4 3 3 2 4 2 2
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